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Worcester fire back after Pat Lam's live TV attack on Andrew Kitchener

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Worcester have hit back in the rumbling Siale Piutau row, director of rugby Alan Solomons taking issue with Pat Lam’s version of last Friday’s Gallagher Premiership fight at Sixways. Warriors’ second row Andrew Kitchener was red-carded for the incident and the three-match ban he was given was the same as the suspension dished out to Piutau after he was cited by match commissioner Tony Diprose.

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Lam was incensed by the punishment, voicing his frustration on live TV following Bristol’s Tuesday night win over Northampton and later appealing the judiciary ruling. That appeal will be heard on Thursday night. Worcester boss Solomons, though, can’t see the grounds for their allegations, insisting instead that Piutau was the instigator of last Friday’s fight and that the Bristol midfielder wasn’t acting in self-defence, as alleged by Lam. 

Speaking on BT Sport prior to the Wednesday night Worcester loss at Bath, Solomons, a former lawyer who specialised in litigation before coaching rugby professionally, said: “One has got to look at the facts of the matter and if you look at the facts of the matter and view the footage, Siale Piutau was in the initiator of the incident (see it here). 

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“He tackled Ted Hill, straddled Ted Hill post the tackle, grabbed him at the top of his jersey and started screaming and shouting at him. That comes through, you can hear that on the ref’s mic, you can hear that he is saying to him there is no need to scream and shout. So that started the entire incident and it’s interesting if you ever look at the judgment, that’s exactly what they found, that the incident started with Siale Piutau, so that’s the first fact. 

“Then young Andrew Kitchener, who obviously like Ted Hill is a young homegrown player, come through our academy, goes to support his teammate. Ted Hill at this stage has no involvement in the second part of this incident. None. He is not involved at all.

 

“Andrew comes across to Siale Piutau. Siale Piutau is a strong, experienced, seasoned player. He immediately seizes the initiative and grabs Andrew Kitchener around the top of his jersey, around the neck area. Andrew then reacts and throws a punch which actually misses completely. 

“Then two players, one from each side, restrain Andrew. You have still got Piutau holding him like that and then Siale Piutau throws a punch which connects and that punch is clearly thrown in retaliation. There is no defending himself, there was nothing to defend himself from. 

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“Having said that, Andrew Kitchener is a really tremendous young lad who has got a good future ahead of him. He has got an unblemished record, he’s a really decent lad from a decent home. He was clearly provoked by what had happened. He has learnt his lesson. 

“He has been punished and rightly so because in the melee that took place subsequently he obviously threw one or two punches being in the state that he was. But to be honest, if you look at it, the punishment meted out by the judiciary committee to both players I thought was appropriate. You’ve got to a judicial process, you have to respect the judicial process. It is integral to the game. It is critical for the game and you can’t in any shape or form seek to undermine it. 

“You know there were further comments made about Melani Nanai taking cheap shots. Well, there is a citing commissioner who looks at it, you’re entitled to refer matters to the citing commissioner. Nothing has been referred from what I have seen of the citing commissioner’s report. 

“So, all in all, you have got to look at the facts of this particular matter objectively and what is interesting is the judgment that was handed down, when it comes to the punch by Siale Piutau, the judgement says clearly that it is retaliatory and there was no defence in the case. That is what it seems like to me.”

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GrahamVF 33 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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