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World Rankings: All Blacks fall, Eagles soar

PARIS, FRANCE - NOVEMBER 16: Will Jordan of New Zealand salutes the supporters following the Autumn Nations Series 2024 rugby test match between France and New Zealand (All Blacks) at Stade de France on November 16, 2024 in Saint-Denis near Paris, France. (Photo by Jean Catuffe/Getty Images)

South Africa’s advantage at the top of the World Rugby Men’s Rankings has been increased to two points after Saturday’s 29-20 win over England, but their nearest rivals are now Ireland, not New Zealand.

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The Springboks increased their rating to 92.78 points, while Ireland beat Argentina 22-19, which puts them second on 90.78 points. Meanwhile, the All Blacks were edged out, 30-29 by France, and their new rating of 90.09 points drops them down to third,

Fourth-placed France have moved to within two points of breaking into the top three following their win in Paris, while the rest of the positions in the top 10 remain the same with Georgia unable to force their way in despite getting off to a promising start in their match against Italy.

Match Summary

2
Penalty Goals
1
2
Tries
2
1
Conversions
2
0
Drop Goals
0
177
Carries
60
4
Line Breaks
3
10
Turnovers Lost
17
3
Turnovers Won
6

The Lelos led 17-6 at half-time in Genoa but Italy reeled off 14 points in the second half to stave off defeat and win 20-17. Georgia would have moved into the top 10 for the first time in history had they avoided defeat because Wales were subsequently beaten 52-20 by Australia in the later of the two Sunday kick-offs.

While Wales’ record 11th straight loss did not lead to them dropping to an all-time rankings low of 12th, the gap between themselves and the Lelos is down to just 0.16 of a point.

The USA produced one of three best results outside of the top 10 and gained one place as a result of their 36-17 win against Tonga. The Eagles have replaced Portugal, who were well beaten by Scotland, in 15th, which is their highest position since Rugby World Cup 2019. Japan also claimed one place, to move to 13th, after beating Uruguay 36-20.

The biggest climbers were the Netherlands, whose steady progress under Lyn Jones continued with a 20-17 win against last year’s Rugby World Cup debutants Chile. The Dutch, who will be hoping to make their tournament debut in Australia in 2027, have surged up the rankings to 24th, a gain of three places.

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This is what the Top 10 of the World Rugby Men’s Rankings will look when they are officially updated at 12:00 GMT on Monday:

  1. South Africa 92.78 (+0.32)
  2. Ireland 90.78 (+0.20)
  3. New Zealand 90.09 (-1.13)
  4. France 88.08 (+1.13)
  5. Argentina 85.40 (-0.20)
  6. Scotland 82.70 (-)
  7. England 82.31 (-0.32)
  8. Australia 82.17 (+1.04)
  9. Fiji 80.07 (+0.01)
  10. Italy 78.92 (+0.24)

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JW 33 minutes ago
France outwrestle All Blacks in titanic Test for one-point win

Yeah nar I pretty much agree with that sentiment, wasn't just about the lineout though.


Yeah, I think it's the future of SR, even TRC. Graham above just now posting about how good a night it was with a dbl header of ENGvSA and NZvFrance, and now I don't want to kick SA or Argentina out of TRC but it would be great if in this next of the woods 2 more top teams could come in to create more of these sort of nights (for rugby's appeal). Often Arg and SA and both travel here and you get those games but more often doesn't work out right.


Obviously a long way off but USA and Japan are the obvious two. First thing we need to do is get Eddie Jones kicked out of Japan so they can start improving again and then get a couple of US teams in SRP (even if one its just a US based and augmented Jaguares).


It will start off the whole conferences are crap debate again (which I will continue to argue vehemently against), but imagine a 6 team Pacific conference, Tokyo Sunwolves (drafted from Tokyo JRLO teams), Tokyo All Stars (made up of best remaining foreign players and overseas drafts), ALL Nihon (best of local non Tokyo based talent, inc China/Korea etc, with mainland Japan), a could of West Coast american franchises and perhaps a second self PI driven Hawai'i based team, or Jagaures. So I see a short NFL like 3 or 4 month comp as fitting best, maybe not even a full round, NZvAUSvPAC, all games taking place within a 6hr window. Model for NZ will definitely still require a competitive and funded NPC!


On the Crusaders, I liked last years ending with Grace on the bench (ovbiously form dependent but thats how it ended) and Lio-Willie at 8. I could have Blackadder trying to be a 7 but think balance will be used with him at 6 and Kellow as 7. Scott Barrett is an international 6 sized player. It is just NZ style/model that pushes him into the tight, I reckon he'd be a great loose player, and saders have Strange and Cahill as bigger players (plus that change could draw someone like Darry back). Same with Haig now, hes not grown yet but Barrett hight and been playing 6, now that the Highlanders have only chosen two locks he'll be playing lock, and that is going to change his growth trajectory massively, rather than seeing him grow like an International 6.

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Tom 49 minutes ago
England player ratings vs South Africa | 2024 Autumn Nations Series

Interesting post. I realise that try was down to Marcus Smith not Slade, this is why I mentioned that England's attack is completely reliant on Smith working miracles. Just wanted to highlight that Slade's little touch was classy and most English players would have cocked it up. Earl has gas, he's very athletic but Underhill is nailed on at 7 in my eyes though. They both need to be on the pitch so we need a tall 6 or 8 to complement them which we have in CCS and potentially Ollie Chessum. We also have young Henry Pollock who may be the 7 by the world cup.


The whole attack needs an overhaul but Richard Wigglesworth our attack coach was a very limited scrum half who excelled at box kicking and had no running game. Spent most of his career with Saracens who mauled, defended and set pieced their way to victory.... Which might have been ok if Felix Jones hadn't quit and been replaced by a guy who coaches Oyonnax who have one of the worst defences in the French 2nd division. I'm not too emotionally invested in England right now because this coaching setup isn't capable of winning anything.


England had no attack when they were winning under Eddie either. They battered teams with huge dominant tackles and won from pressure. The last time England had any creativity in attack was the Stuart Lancaster/Mike Catt era. They played some fantastic attacking rugby but results were mediocre, lots of 2nd place finishes in the 6N although it felt like we were building something special until we got brutally dumped out of our home world cup in the pool stage.

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JW 1 hour ago
England player ratings vs South Africa | 2024 Autumn Nations Series

As has been the way all year, and for all England's play I can remember. I missed a lot of the better years under Eddie though.


Lets have a look at the LQB for the last few games... 41% under 3 sec compared to 56% last week, 47% in the game you felt England best in against NZ, and 56 against Ireland.


That was my impression as well. Dunno if that is a lack of good counterattack ball from the D, forward dominance (Post Contact Meters stats reversed yesterday compared to that fast Ireland game), or some Borthwick scheme, but I think that has been highlighted as Englands best point of difference this year with their attack, more particularly how they target using it in certain areas. So depending on how you look at it, not necessarily the individual players.


You seem to be falling into the same trap as NZs supporters when it comes to Damien McKenzie. That play you highlight Slade in wasn't one of those LQB situations from memory, that was all on the brilliance of Smith. Sure, Slade did his job in that situation, but Smith far exceeded his (though I understand it was a move Sleightholme was calling for). But yeah, it's not always going to be on a platter from your 10 and NZ have been missing that Slade line, in your example, more often than not too. When you go back to Furbank and Feyi-Waboso returns you'll have that threat again. Just need to generate that ball, wait for some of these next Gen forwards to come through etc, the props and injured 6 coming back to the bench. I don't think you can put Earl back to 7, unless he spends the next two years speeding up (which might be good for him because he's getting beat by speed like he's not used to not having his own speed to react anymore).

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