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WXV: Key quotes from New Zealand vs England

LANGLEY, BRITISH COLUMBIA - OCTOBER 06: Mererangi Paul of New Zealand being tackled by Jess Breach of England during the WXV1 match between New Zealand and England at Langley Events Center on October 06, 2024 in Langley, British Columbia. (Photo by Rich Lam - World Rugby/World Rugby via Getty Images)

England and New Zealand put on a 14-try thriller in the second round of WXV 1. The Red Roses won 49-31 to go into the final weekend unbeaten while New Zealand are yet to have won a match in this year’s competition.

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New Zealand will face France in their last match on 12 October, which will be followed by a clash between the Red Roses and hosts Canada, both at BC Place. Tickets are available for all remaining WXV 1 matches here.

Here are some key post-match quotes from both sides after the match.

England’s dazzling attack stuns at Langley Events Centre 

A stunning display in attack from England saw the back three shine, Jess Breach scoring a hat-trick and Ellie Kildunne and Abby Dow both picking up a brace, in addition to tries from Zoe Harrison and Natasha Hunt.

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On the attack performance, England head coach John Mitchell said: “I think we’re pretty hard markers so we clearly have our responsibility and I guess a standard around our last pass. It was really good to see that being executed today. We’re a side that I guess is developing one team in attack and the evidence today was a really good example of that.

“Everyone has got to take responsibility within that, we’re no longer just a forward pack and a back line. I think we enjoy that, we leaked a few tries today as well but that wasn’t through a lack of intent and we’ll just look to score more if people are going to score against us.

“The plans worked in the sense that we’ve exploited those opportunities. We look at pictures a lot of the opposition and it’s very clear to the girls where they can exploit it, and again it’s just up to them to back themselves and have a crack. There are times when it won’t come off, but I just love the way the whole team took responsibility today, especially the back three in terms of the last pass was a really high standard and we got the results from it.”

England’s Hannah Botterman reaches 50 caps

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Red Roses prop Hannah Botterman led her team out in Langley for her 50th cap. Captain Marlier Packer spoke with pride about what the forward brings to their team.

The England captain said: “She brings so much both on and off the pitch. She’s a character that lights up the room. Players and staff all agree on that one. The way she goes about her business on the pitch, she’s a phenomenal player and she keeps growing.

 

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“The thing is with Botts, she’s had some setbacks with injuries in her career but she’s always come back fighting. I think that really shows in the way she handles herself within the group, she’s turning into not just a quality player but a world-class player and a leader within the group. Her rugby knowledge is right up there.”

Botterman said after reaching the milestone: “Yeah it was a bit strange getting here, but it doesn’t quite feel too real just yet. I kind of was just thinking ‘Packer please just come out as soon as you can after me’,” she said with a laugh.

“It’s obviously a big achievement and I’m super proud and happy for myself. That first cap I was massively out of shape, not in a great place.

“I’ve grown a lot physically and just learnt a lot really over the last five years. Hopefully, I’m continuing to learn and continuing to grow. The ceiling is still a bit higher than what it is right now so definitely space to grow.”

New Zealand building experience ahead of Women’s Rugby World Cup 2025

Black Ferns head coach Allan Bunting discussed their recent performances a year out from the World Cup, insisting that recent form has not been a lull but more of an opportunity to grow experience.

He said: “I don’t think it’s a lull, I think we’ve got a few younger ladies out there that are learning how to play Test match rugby. If you look at the experience between both the teams, they’re learning playing in these games. We back them and support them, our ladies are defintely trying and I’m sure we’ll see some more improvements.”

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Young fly-half Hannah King was put under the cosh in the match against England, but Bunting was proud of the learnings she is making, alongside those being made by other players.

“She’s growing and learning. We had a real plan out there and she really gave it a good go there. I know she’s probably feeling a little bit down but like I said, she’s young and she’s learning in Test matches against England,” the head coach explained.

“I’m proud of her effort and hopefully she can lift her head up higher she’ll defintely learn from this. I know it’s pretty hard learning in these games.

“If you look at some of our players, Katelyn [Vahaakolo] for example, she’s only been playing rugby for a couple of years. She’s learning, she’s been really good out there on our edges and Ruby’s [Tui] been playing for a little bit but she hasn’t been playing XVs for three years.

“There were moments out there, England were pretty ruthless when they had a little bit of space out there they found it pretty quickly and we just need to react a bit quicker.”

Black Ferns credit performance from forward pack despite loss 

New Zealand co-captain Kennedy Simon said: “It’s always a battle against the English. They’re a big forward pack and you’ve really got to roll your sleeves up and go to work. I was really proud of our set piece. I would really love to give credit to our maul defence.

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“We’ve gone away and done a lot of work in that area and obviously that’s not where the game was won and lost, but there are heaps of things around the field that we can be proud of. Again, we can’t go past the result, so we need to make sure that we go away and work hard on other areas of the field and implement that in Test matches.”

Bunting added: “Last time we played them we probably tried to go around them a bit more. Today our forwards really rolled their sleeves up and went through them and created lots more opportunities. If we can get our kicking game right and play in the right areas a little bit more and put pressure on them. “

More Test competition lauded by both teams

Increased Test competition has been a key pillar for improvement in the women’s game. Both captains articulated how WXV has benefited their teams.

Packer said: “I think it’s massively good for us. The opportunity to back up a performance from two weeks ago and then do it here again at WXV is massive. We’ve got quite a young squad and some of those players will have actually played New Zealand and only beaten New Zealand.

“When you look at those statistics it’s great, but then also I think for us, we want to play the best teams in the world and that’s what this tournament gives us. The warm-up games prior to this gave us that as well so I think it’s great.”

Simon spoke of the importance of gaining experience against different teams: “It’s been huge for us. I always speak about it, coming and crossing over with the Northern Hemisphere, they’ve played a lot of rugby and it allows us to gain experience through their style of kicking, their set piece.

“I’m not taking any credit away from the nations that we face in PAC 4 because Canada have come a long way as well but just to have more Test matches under our belt is really helpful, especially going into a year like next year with the Rugby World Cup.”

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JW 41 minutes ago
'Passionate reunion of France and New Zealand shows Fabien Galthie is wrong to rest his stars'

Ok, managed to read the full article..

... New Zealand’s has only 14 and the professional season is all over within four months. In France, club governance is the responsibility of an independent organisation [the Ligue Nationale de Rugby or LNR] which is entirely separate from the host union [the Fédération Française de Rugby or FFR]. Down south New Zealand Rugby runs the provincial and the national game.

That is the National Provincial Championship, a competition of 14 representative union based teams run through the SH international window and only semi professional (paid only during it's running). It is run by NZR and goes for two and a half months.


Super Rugby is a competition involving 12 fully professional teams, of which 5 are of New Zealand eligibility, and another joint administered team of Pacific Island eligibility, with NZR involvement. It was a 18 week competition this year, so involved (randomly chosen I believe) extra return fixtures (2 or 3 home and away derbys), and is run by Super Rugby Pacific's own independent Board (or organisation). The teams may or may not be independently run and owned (note, this does not necessarily mean what you think of as 'privately owned').


LNR was setup by FFR and the French Government to administer the professional game in France. In New Zealand, the Players Association and Super Rugby franchises agreed last month to not setup their own governance structure for professional rugby and re-aligned themselves with New Zealand Rugby. They had been proposing to do something like the English model, I'm not sure how closely that would have been aligned to the French system but it did not sound like it would have French union executive representation on it like the LNR does.

In the shaky isles the professional pyramid tapers to a point with the almighty All Blacks. In France the feeling for country is no more important than the sense of fierce local identity spawned at myriad clubs concentrated in the southwest. Progress is achieved by a nonchalant shrug and the wide sweep of nuanced negotiation, rather than driven from the top by a single intense focus.

Yes, it is pretty much a 'representative' selection system at every level, but these union's are having to fight for their existence against the regime that is NZR, and are currently going through their own battle, just as France has recently as I understand it. A single focus, ala the French game, might not be the best outcome for rugby as a whole.


For pure theatre, it is a wonderful article so far. I prefer 'Ntamack New Zealand 2022' though.

The young Crusader still struggles to solve the puzzle posed by the shorter, more compact tight-heads at this level but he had no problem at all with Colombe.

It was interesting to listen to Manny during an interview on Maul or Nothing, he citied that after a bit of banter with the All Black's he no longer wanted one of their jersey's after the game. One of those talks was an eye to eye chat with Tamaiti Williams, there appear to be nothing between the lock and prop, just a lot of give and take. I thought TW angled in and caused Taylor to pop a few times, and that NZ were lucky to be rewarded.

f you have a forward of 6ft 8ins and 145kg, and he is not at all disturbed by a dysfunctional set-piece, you are in business.

He talked about the clarity of the leadership that helped alleviate any need for anxiety at the predicaments unfolding before him. The same cannot be said for New Zealand when they had 5 minutes left to retrieve a match winning penalty, I don't believe. Did the team in black have much of a plan at any point in the game? I don't really call an autonomous 10 vehicle they had as innovative. I think Razor needs to go back to the dealer and get a new game driver on that one.

Vaa’i is no match for his power on the ground. Even in reverse, Meafou is like a tractor motoring backwards in low gear, trampling all in its path.

Vaa'i actually stops him in his tracks. He gets what could have been a dubious 'tackle' on him?

A high-level offence will often try to identify and exploit big forwards who can be slower to reload, and therefore vulnerable to two quick plays run at them consecutively.

Yes he was just standing on his haunches wasn't he? He mentioned that in the interview, saying that not only did you just get up and back into the line to find the opposition was already set and running at you they also hit harder than anything he'd experienced in the Top 14. He was referring to New Zealands ultra-physical, burst-based Super style of course, which he was more than a bit surprised about. I don't blame him for being caught out.


He still sent the obstruction back to the repair yard though!

What wouldn’t the New Zealand rugby public give to see the likes of Mauvaka and Meafou up front..

Common now Nick, don't go there! Meafou showed his Toulouse shirt and promptly got his citizenship, New Zealand can't have him, surely?!?


As I have said before with these subjects, really enjoy your enthusiasm for their contribution on the field and I'd love to see more of their shapes running out for Vern Cotter and the like styled teams.

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