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'You never really want to do that': Gibbes reflects on Hurricanes' set-piece woes

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Just 34 minutes into the Hurricanes’ match with the Waratahs at Leichhardt Oval on the weekend, the coaches made the somewhat unprecedented decision to replace their entire front row.

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Xavier Numia, Asafo Aumua and Tyrel Lomax had been bashed, beaten and bruised by their opposites at the set-piece, conceding four penalties in the opening half and accelerating backwards at a rate of knots, even on their own feed.

Angus Bell, in particular, seemed to be working over All Blacks tighthead Lomax and it completely stymied any attempts from the Hurricanes to build a platform from which to attack. Somewhat unsurprisingly, they were well behind on the scoreboard, down 15-nil without having ever really fired a shot.

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Shortly before halftime clicked over, the Hurricanes coaches made the decision to rotate out their starting trio and bring in Tevita Mafileo, Dane Coles and Owen Franks – and the impact was immediate.

In the first scrum following the front-row swap, Franks earned a penalty against Bell – and that was the way the night continued.

 

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With the Hurricanes finally having the upper hand at the set-piece, they clawed their way back into the match, scoring three tries and two penalties in the second stanza and limiting the Waratahs to just three further points.

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The game ended 22-18 in the visiting sides’ favour and it was the decision to sub on Mafileo, Coles and Franks in the first half that can easily be pinpointed as the turning point of the match. It wasn’t a decision that was made lightly, according to forwards coach Chris Gibbes, but one was necessary to turn the tide in the Hurricanes’ favour.

“A hell of a tough decision that and you never really want to do that in any game,” he told media on Tuesday. “Those three boys have done a hell of a job for us leading into that game.

“It’s a combination of a few things we got wrong and then we just got a little bit individual. From a team perspective, we needed to make that decision around we can try and let the boys work it out but potentially get a yellow card at the scrum – which was probably coming next – or we make the change and use the depth we’ve got in the squad and on the bench. That’s the way we went and it worked out [well] that way.

“You never want to see the boys come off the field like they did and [have] to make those subs so early but at the end of the day, it’s a team and that’s what comes first.”

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Gibbes noted that while loosehead prop Numia had at times looked to get the upper hand over his opposite, Archer Holz, the three front-rowers simply weren’t gelling well enough as a unit.

“[Numia] did put heat on but it’s a collective, that front row,” Gibbes said. “If one guy’s overworking and the other guys aren’t quite getting it right and not nailing the plan then it doesn’t really matter because it’s still going to wheel and angle.

“Again, it’s just the learnings we’ve had from that this morning and trying to find solutions to the problems on the field has been a key focus.”

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The game against the Waratahs marked the third time that the trio of Numia, Aumua and Lomax have started together this season and it was the first instance of them really struggling as a unit.

All Blacks head coach Ian Foster will have taken note of the proceedings on Saturday evening with both Aumua and Lomax likely to earn selection in the national side later this year – but similar hiccups at test level could be disastrous for the men in black.

Foster has praised Lomax’s ability to adjust to the tactics of opposition looseheads in the past but the 26-year-old evidently struggled to do so while he was on the field against Wallabies prop Bell.

“He was pretty impressive off the bench, actually,” Foster said of Lomax’s performance against Argentina last year. “Tyrel is a good scrummager and I thought in the second half he came in and was able to apply some of the learnings we had about the different tactics that were occurring at scrum time that caused us to get penalised a couple of times. I was quite pleased with the way he learnt, adapted and adjusted to that.”

Franks, with seven years of seniority over Lomax, however, is a wily operator of his own and has faced international opposition all over the field throughout his extended career. Evidently, Bell’s work at scrum time was no match for Franks’ own mastery of the dark arts.

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Andrew 949 days ago

Lomax is the 2020s version of Jamie McIntosh. All the physical goods ..but..

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GrahamVF 32 minutes ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

"has SA actually EVER helped to develop another union to maturity like NZ has with Japan," yes - Argentina. You obviously don't know the history of Argentinian rugby. SA were touring there on long development tours in the 1950's

We continued the Junior Bok tours to the Argentine through to the early 70's

My coach at Grey High was Giepie Wentzel who toured Argentine as a fly half. He told me about how every Argentinian rugby club has pictures of Van Heerden and Danie Craven on prominent display. Yes we have developed a nation far more than NZ has done for Japan. And BTW Sa players were playing and coaching in Japan long before the Kiwis arrived. Fourie du Preez and many others were playing there 15 years ago.


"Isaac Van Heerden's reputation as an innovative coach had spread to Argentina, and he was invited to Buenos Aires to help the Pumas prepare for their first visit to South Africa in 1965.[1][2] Despite Argentina faring badly in this tour,[2] it was the start of a long and happy relationship between Van Heerden and the Pumas. Izak van Heerden took leave from his teaching post in Durban, relocated to Argentina, learnt fluent Spanish, and would revolutionise Argentine play in the late 1960s, laying the way open for great players such as Hugo Porta.[1][2] Van Heerden virtually invented the "tight loose" form of play, an area in which the Argentines would come to excel, and which would become a hallmark of their playing style. The Pumas repaid the initial debt, by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park, and emerged as one of the better modern rugby nations, thanks largely to the talents of this Durban schoolmaster.[1]"


After the promise made by Junior Springbok manager JF Louw at the end of a 12-game tour to Argentina in 1959 – ‘I will do everything to ensure we invite you to tour our country’ – there were concerns about the strength of Argentinian rugby. South African Rugby Board president Danie Craven sent coach Izak van Heerden to help the Pumas prepare and they repaid the favour by beating the Junior Springboks at Ellis Park.

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JW 6 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I rated Lowe well enough to be an AB. Remember we were picking the likes of George Bridge above such players so theres no disputing a lot of bad decisions have been made by those last two coaches. Does a team like the ABs need a finicky winger who you have to adapt and change a lot of your style with to get benefit from? No, not really. But he still would have been a basic improvement on players like even Savea at the tail of his career, Bridge, and could even have converted into the answer of replacing Beauden at the back. Instead we persisted with NMS, Naholo, Havili, Reece, all players we would have cared even less about losing and all because Rieko had Lowe's number 11 jersey nailed down.


He was of course only 23 when he decided to leave, it was back in the beggining of the period they had started retaining players (from 2018 onwards I think, they came out saying theyre going to be more aggressive at some point). So he might, all of them, only just missed out.


The main point that Ed made is that situations like Lowe's, Aki's, JGP's, aren't going to happen in future. That's a bit of a "NZ" only problem, because those players need to reach such a high standard to be chosen by the All Blacks, were as a country like Ireland wants them a lot earlier like that. This is basically the 'ready in 3 years' concept Ireland relied on, versus the '5 years and they've left' concept' were that player is now ready to be chosen by the All Blacks (given a contract to play Super, ala SBW, and hopefully Manu).


The 'mercenary' thing that will take longer to expire, and which I was referring to, is the grandparents rule. The new kids coming through now aren't going to have as many gp born overseas, so the amount of players that can leave with a prospect of International rugby offer are going to drop dramatically at some point. All these kiwi fellas playing for a PI, is going to stop sadly.


The new era problem that will replace those old concerns is now French and Japanese clubs (doing the same as NRL teams have done for decades by) picking kids out of school. The problem here is not so much a national identity one, than it is a farm system where 9 in 10 players are left with nothing. A stunted education and no support in a foreign country (well they'll get kicked out of those countries were they don't in Australia).


It's the same sort of situation were NZ would be the big guy, but there weren't many downsides with it. The only one I can think was brought up but a poster on this site, I can't recall who it was, but he seemed to know a lot of kids coming from the Islands weren't really given the capability to fly back home during school xms holidays etc. That is probably something that should be fixed by the union. Otherwise getting someone like Fakatava over here for his last year of school definitely results in NZ being able to pick the cherries off the top but it also allows that player to develop and be able to represent Tonga and under age and possibly even later in his career. Where as a kid being taken from NZ is arguably going to be worse off in every respect other than perhaps money. Not going to develop as a person, not going to develop as a player as much, so I have a lotof sympathy for NZs case that I don't include them in that group but I certainly see where you're coming from and it encourages other countries to think they can do the same while not realising they're making a much worse experience/situation.

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