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You're the Ref - What would you give?

Rugby referee Nigel Owens and Peter O'Mahony (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

We all like to shout at the TV during the Six Nations or offer the officials some ‘helpful’ advice from the touchline or terraces of our local ground.

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“You’re so far out of your depth you’d drown in a puddle,” is one of the more memorable lines I heard during my time as a referee.

RugbyPass is now giving fans everywhere the chance to put themselves to the test.

Ref Watch columnist Paul Smith’s answer is below.

The Scenario:

You are the referee of a match played in pouring rain on a pitch with huge in-goal areas.

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With his team feeding a defensive five-metre scrum the home side’s full back positions himself directly behind the set-piece just inside his dead ball line.

The rest of the home backs line up 15 metres in front of the full back on their goal-line.

After winning scrum possession the ball is passed to the full back who seeks to find touch.

Fast-advancing opponents pressure the kicker who slices badly causing the ball to strike his own posts and balloon in the air.

Although the away side’s no.7 is now only a metre away, the home centres are closest to the ball which eventually comes down directly behind their posts never having crossed the goal-line.

These three players contest the awkwardly spinning ball in the air. It is caught then immediately touched down by the home side’s no.12.

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What is your decision?

a) Five-metre scrum opposite the point where the ball was touched down with the away side to feed

b) Goal-line drop out

c) Penalty to the away side on the five-metre line opposite the point where the ball first went into in goal

d) Penalty to the away side on the five-metre line opposite the point where the ball was touched down and a yellow card for home no.12

e) Penalty try

f) Penalty try and yellow card for home no.12

Ref Watch columnist Paul Smith’s answer:

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I’d opt for option F – a penalty try and yellow card for home no.12, although I also see the argument for D.

Explanation:

Despite what is sometimes suggested a player can be offside in goal.

Home no.12 is in front of the kicker and is therefore offside once he interferes with play.

The close proximity of away no.7 brings a penalty try into the referee’s thoughts.

Based on the skill level of the players and weather conditions the referee must assess the probability of a try being scored had the no.12’s offence not taken place.

Given that home no.12 caught the ball under pressure, we have to assume away no.7 would have managed it too – especially without the presence of the offside player.

It is therefore a penalty try.

Home no.12 is guilty of a ‘professional foul’ type offence in his own ‘red zone’ and since he is identifiable he is shown a yellow card.

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JW 6 hours ago
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Have to imagine it was a one off sorta thing were they were there (saying playing against the best private schools) because that is the level they could play at. I think I got carried away and misintrepted what you were saying, or maybe it was just that I thought it was something that should be brought in.


Of course now school is seen as so much more important, and sports as much more important to schooling, that those rural/public gets get these scholarships/free entry to play at private schools.


This might only be relevant in the tradition private rugby schools, so not worth implementing, but the same drain has been seen in NZ to the point where the public schools are not just impacted by the lost of their best talent to private schools, there is a whole flow on effect of losing players to other sports their school can' still compete at the highest levels in, and staff quality etc. So now and of that traditional sort of rivalry is near lost as I understand it.


The idea to force the top level competition into having equal public school participation would be someway to 'force' that neglect into reverse. The problem with such a simple idea is of course that if good rugby talent decides to stay put in order to get easier exposure, they suffer academically on principle. I wonder if a kid who say got selected for a school rep 1st/2nd team before being scouted by a private school, or even just say had two or three years there, could choose to rep their old school for some of their rugby still?


Like say a new Cup style comp throughout the season, kid's playing for the private school in their own local/private school grade comp or whatever, but when its Cup games they switch back? Better represent, areas, get more 2nd players switching back for top level 1st comp at their old school etc? Just even in order to have cool stories where Ella or Barrett brothers all switch back to show their old school is actually the best of the best?

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