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Zebre Parma end URC season without a win

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ebre Parma head coach Fabio Roselli before the United Rugby Championship match between Munster and Zebre Parma at Musgrave Park in Cork. (Photo By Piaras Ó Mídheach/Sportsfile via Getty Images)

Zebre Parma ended the United Rugby Championship season without a victory after falling to a 50-35 defeat by the Lions at Loftus Versfeld.

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An 18th loss from as many outings came despite a first-half hat-trick by wing Simone Gesi, who opened his account just 36 seconds into the game.

With both sides bottom of their respective shields and having no prospect of reaching the play-offs, the clash had a training-run feel that was reflected in an overall try count of 13.

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Zebre entered the match off the back of a 78-12 mauling by the Bulls and they at least went down fighting in Pretoria, finishing with a flourish.

The Lions did the bulk of the damage in the third quarter, outscoring the visitors from Italy three tries to nil, and saw Sanele Nohamba and Edwill van der Merwe cross twice each.

It was a nightmare afternoon for defence coaches with the carnage to come signposted by Gesi strolling over after just 36 seconds.

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JW 2 hours ago
The Fergus Burke test and rugby's free market

Of course not, but were not going to base our reasoning on what is said in one comment in a particular scenario and time, are we?


Actually, you are? Seriously?

Although Burke readily admits “I am driven by international rugby”, his final destination is still unknown. He could be one day replacing Finn Russell in the navy blue of Scotland, or challenging Marcus Smith for the right to wear a red rose on his chest, or cycling all the way home to the silver fern. It is all ‘Professor Plum in the billiards room with the lead pipe’ type guesswork, as things stand.

You yourself suggested it? Just theoretically? Look I hope Burke does well, but he's not really a player that has got a lot of attention, you've probably read/heard more him in this last few months than we have in his 4 years. Your own comments also suggest going overseas is a good idea to push ones case for national selection, especially for a team like NZ being so isolated. So i'll ask again, as no of your quotes obviously say one thing or the other, why don't you think he might be trying to advance his case like Leicester did?


Also, you can look at Leicesters statements in a similar fashion, where no doubt you are referring to his comments made while in NZ (still playing a big part of the WC campaign in his case). You should be no means have taken them for granted, and I'd suggest any other coach or management and he might not have returned (been wanted back).

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JW 3 hours ago
The Fergus Burke test and rugby's free market

As Razor should be, he is the All Black coach after all. Borthwick or Schmidt, not so much. The point I was trying to make is that people are comparing Razors first year (14 games) versus Fosters first 14 games, which were over two years and happened to conclude just before he lost all of his EOYT games (Ireland, France, England etc). Not to mention them being COVID level opponents.


So who were these 6 teams and circumstances of Marcus's loses? I had just written that sentence as a draft and it was still there after adding the prior sentence, so just left it there lol. So not bullying no, but left essentially to say 'i'm not going to find out of myself', yes. I thought I had already proved the need for that sort of requirement with the Razor reference. So as per above, there would be a lot of context to take out of those 14 games (those shared between Farrell Ford and Smith) against higher opponents. It's a good stat/way to highlight the your point, but all a stat like that really does is show you theres something to investigate. Had you done this investigation prior to coming to your realisation, or after?


Yes, my view is that England did very well to push New Zealand on multiple occasions, and Marcus specifically in keeping England in the game against Australia. Personally I think Englands results are more down to luck however. And as I said, I'm here to be swayed, not defend Marcus as the #1. I think I understand were you're coming from, and you make a good observation that the 10 has a fair bit to do with how fast a side can play (though what you said was a 'Marcus neutral' statement) and the same argument has been made with the All Blacks fascination with playing players like Beauden Barrett at 10 who can't orchestrate an attack like that in order to compound LQB into points. Even a 10 like Dmac is more a self creator than one that is a cog in a wider plan.


But I still don't think you'd be right if you've put down the sides lack of LQB (pretty sure I remember checking that stat) compared to the 6N as being something to do with a Marcus Smith side. We've seen other similar teams who rely on it being found out recently as well, I just think it's harder to get that flow on (lets not making it a debate about the relative strength of the hemispheres) now (hence said investigation into those games and contexts are required).


25 is also young, he is the best fit to take the side to a RWC. Ford or Farrell are not. Fin could be, but as you've said with Marcus, that would require a lot of change elsewhere in the team 2 years out of a WC. Marcus will get a 6N to prove himself so to speak, unless Fin gets in quick, I don't think you should want a change if you get a couple of reasonable results. But then you expect England to be in the top 3 of the world, let alone the 6N...

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