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LONG READ Are the All Blacks doomed to a 70% flatline?

Are the All Blacks doomed to a 70% flatline?
3 hours ago

Ask any rugby league aficionado who is the greatest league coach in professional history, and they are more than likely to give you the same answer: Craig Bellamy. Supporters of Jack Gibson and Wayne Bennett might split hairs, but it is extraordinarily hard to argue with Melbourne Storm supremo Bellamy’s record over three decades in one of the most competitive leagues in the world: 21 finals appearances in 22 seasons, nine grand finals with five victories.

Now a dose of perspective: in his tenure as head coach of the All Blacks, Ian Foster achieved 32 wins from 46 matches at a 69.6% win rate – the same as Bellamy, and fractionally ahead of double World Cup winner Rassie Erasmus, who currently stands at 69.4%. But while Erasmus is elevated to demigod status in his country, and the man nicknamed ‘Bellyache’ is considered a legend of his sport, ‘Fozzy’ is largely perceived as a failure.

Ian Foster is not widely regarded as a successful All Blacks coach, despite reaching the World Cup final last year (Photo by Michael Steele – World Rugby/World Rugby via Getty Images)

He lost the 2023 World Cup final by a single point to Rassie’s Springboks after playing the bulk of the game with only 14 men, but on such fine margins do sporting reputations turn. Foster’s part in the reconstruction job after the disastrous series defeat by Ireland in 2022 was consigned to the dustbin of history, and the support he gave to Sir Steve Hansen from 2012 to 2019 became a dim and distant memory.

That short sample amply describes the stratospherically high level of expectation that besieges all coaches of the All Blacks, granting them only the thinnest of air to breathe. Foster’s predecessors, two of the three wise men Sir Graham Henry and Hansen, guided their charges to consecutive World Cups, 11 Rugby Championships out of a possible 14, and colossal cumulative record of 191 victories from 210 Tests over 14 years, at an 86.2% win rate.

Nobody can live on the summit of Everest forever, and every ascent has a descent on the other side of the mountain. But what part did New Zealand rugby play in its own relative downfall? How and when did New Zealand [and their supporters] begin to view themselves less as All Blacks, and more as Also-Rans?

New Zealand all-time great Sam Whitelock gave a most revealing insight into the personality differences between the three main men in his autobiography View from the Second Row:

Sam Whitelock, pictured with Ardie Savea, is a totem of New Zealand rugby (Photo by David Ramos – World Rugby/World Rugby via Getty Images)

“I played under three All Blacks head coaches, and they were all, to some extent, products of their upbringing and vocations. Graham Henry was a former school principal who watched over everything with a helicopter view and a discerning eye. Steve Hansen was a former cop, always needing to know everything that was happening in the background. And Fozzie, a clergyman’s son, was a very caring, empathetic guy who believed in fairness.”

Reading between the lines, it was a case of two very active personalities being replaced by a more passive character:

“Like a good headmaster, ‘Ted’ let me know when I’d done something wrong, but he wasn’t micro-managing every aspect of my rugby education. ‘Shag’ was a cop, keeping a close eye on everything like a detective. He had no trouble looking a player in the eye and giving him a blunt and brutal gee-up.”

Move from there to empathy and a passive make-up and it was probably too big a leap for most of Henry and Hansen’s ex-players to make. It was something of nothing, a coaching afterthought.

Whitelock saw the writing on the wall as early as 2021, after twin tour defeats by Ireland and France: “We were not being coached well enough… we had prepared too many excuses for our under-performance.” A harder edge returned with the mid-2022 appointments of Joe Schmidt and Jase Ryan, but it was not quite enough to put the All Blacks over the top at the World Cup one year later.

New Zealand Rugby gave out word to Scott ‘Razor’ Robertson he could begin planning for the post-Fozzy era around the same time Ryan and Schmidt replaced Brad Mooar and John Plumtree in the coaching group, and the personality transplant at head coach began well before its official announcement.

It led to some uncomfortable clashes, most notably when Robertson and Foster publicly disagreed over the policy of national eligibility. Razor was open to moving on and picking players from overseas, Fozzy wanted to stay put and do what had worked for New Zealand rugby in the past. That focused the friction between a proactive, ‘get-up-and-go’ personality and the more circumspect, conservative view in a nutshell.

It is already too late now, to expect the introduction of a super proactive character to have the same impact as a Henry or Hansen. The genie is already out of the bottle and any revisit to the heady heights of their era is unlikely. The days of 70% are here to stay.

New Zealand’s last-gasp 24-22 win over England on Saturday – the All Blacks’ third win over the men in white in the Robertson era – moved Razor on to 72.7%. Assuming New Zealand beat Italy in their last tour game, it could be as high as 78.5%, or as low as 64.3% by the end of his first year in charge. Thus, 70% may become the new 85% for the All Blacks.

The new norm has expressed itself via inconsistency. Some departments of the team improved, others trod water or slid backwards in West London on Saturday afternoon. Although Beauden Barrett and Will Jordan created an excellent switch try between them in the 28th minute, the game management balance was still off, with Barrett kicking 16 times compared to twice only by Jordan.

Barrett is out injured for the next match against Ireland, so Razor will cycle back to Damian McKenzie and Jordan for that game. With both featuring in the All Blacks’ preferred backfield for counterattacking purposes and the new refereeing guidelines discouraging escorts of the receiver in place, it will present the men in green with some ripe targets for aerial bombardment.

 

 

On the positive side of the slate, Wallace Sititi enjoyed another outstanding man-of-the-match outing at six, Mark Tele’a returned to his rightful spot on the right rather than the left wing with major impact, and the bench front-row reversed the refereeing momentum at scrum time at a crucial point of the game.

The differences between right and left wing are often subtle but usually unappreciated. It is not uncommon to find wingmen who find the switch between edges uncomfortable: the receiving and fending hands are different, the main stepping foot changes and the positional requirements on defence, with the defender looking in from left to right, rather in the other direction, can be disorienting.

Tele’a is one of those who is far more at home on the right. He completed all of his tackles, scored two tries and recovered three contestable kicks in the air.

 

 

With the kicking lanes far more open for the chaser under the new guidelines, the game in Dublin could well be decided in the air, and Tele’a and Caleb Clarke are a strong combination in that area of the game.

It was the Aucklander’s second try which illustrated just how fine his feeling for space and time is out on the right sideline.

 

If Tamaiti Williams starts the climactic game in Dublin on the loosehead, the redoubtable Irish and Lions’ ‘jukebox’ Tadhg Furlong [“the hits just keep coming”] will be licking his lips. Where Bath’s Will Stuart had to defend against Ethan De Groot in July, he went on the attack against the young Crusader prop.

 

Williams habitually packs with a very low left elbow and Stuart constricts his space further with a strong right ‘farmer’s arm’ bind. At 6ft 5ins tall, there is nowhere for the young loosehead to go but down, and he conceded two penalties for his pains.

The introduction of Pasilio Tosi and Ofa Tu’ungafasi on one side, and Fin Baxter and Dan Cole on the other, changed the complexion of the scrummaging completely, with the All Blacks winning two penalties of their own and squeezing England hard enough to prevent an easy drop-goal attempt at the decisive moment of the match.

 

Most nations in the rugby world would accept a 70% win rate without the slightest hesitation. Some Tier One teams would bite your hand off if such an offer was presented. Not so the All Blacks and their supporters, who have been fed a rich diet of 85%-plus far too long for their good.

The succession planning from the supremely innovative, proactive days of the three wise men – Henry, Hansen and ‘the Professor’ Sir Wayne Smith – suddenly became merely a conservation project under the nurturing hand of Foster. Fozzy was more suited to rearranging the products of the past than staying ahead of the game, and the rest of planet rugby grabbed the opportunity to catch up with New Zealand gleefully.

By the time Robertson took over the reins it was already too late, and the die was cast. New Zealand may be doomed to the 70% flatline for the foreseeable future, and Robertson will be repeating the same tired record for some time to come:

“I don’t think George Ford has ever missed a drop kick in his life, you know. We showed a lot of character, stayed in the fight for a long period of time and [with] 15 minutes to go, to come from eight down is a pretty special moment for us as a group.”

Comments

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Ed the Duck 11 mins ago

Real insight from Whitelock that hits the nail bang on the head and fozzy’s biggest failing was actually self awareness on the missing piece, essential in the coaching ticket, that held feet to the fire with a real hard edge on accountability. The failure in this was perhaps even greater on the part of NZRU who must have seen the gap in requirements but were asleep at the wheel until it was too late. Any elite set up that doesn’t come with a healthy dose of fear in the mix will not cut it when it really matters.


That said, I just don’t see how NZ gets back to any kind of dominant position. Sure they can compete well but the structural issues around the geopolitics of world rugby have moved against them and they’ve got their work cut out just to stay in and around the top 3. I say this as someone who predicted they would prevail over England at Twickenham last Saturday but even then, their handling errors and poor execution in attack left a lot of points out on the pitch. I genuinely can’t recall seeing an All Black team rack up so many last pass errors in one game.

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NB 2 mins ago

Yes SW's comments made the most sense to me given what I'd been told and what I'd seen from the outside looking in Ed.


It sounds like ppl were given room to wriggle out of a sense of responsibility, and that's how it felt at the time.


As you say the geopolitics are now working against NZ. If the URC expands to include English sides it will become the biggest, and in time prob the best league in the world. It could have as many as six diff natiosn all competing in one comp.


I reckon the ABs deserved to win on Saturday even though England should have put the game away at the end. NZ were the better attacking team.

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Easy_Duzz-it 32 mins ago

The world never caught up the All Blacks just went backwards . After 2015 they had a plan to build the team around 2 players . Sam Cane and Beauden Barrett , Cane was hailed as the next Mccaw and Barrett the next carter . Unfortunately Cane sustained too many injures and Barrett despite being a great ball runner didn't have a high enough conversion rate or the game management skills to control the team and the game . Then to make matters worst , the selections were so bad year after year the forward pack became shockingly weak .

New Zealand had so much talent wasted betwen 2016 - 2023 . Laumape , elliot dixon , ben tamefuna , pita gus , ben lam , vaea fifita and so many other in form players that never got a look or the time to develop into great All Blacks .


Then you have the dual playmaker system that never worked , but they kept using it . why ? cause some men cant admit when they're wrong . thats the All Blacks between 2016-2023 . wrong coaches with the wrong vision , going in the wrong direction . now it appears the world caught up . but like I said the world never caught up . then you add the obvious flawed referee calls that happen to go against us more often then for us now . the worst of which that never gets called is when the opposition use rush defence but have players offside . this has been going for years , but who cares ? .


anyway its almost 10 and i need to get some shut eye .

Go the might All Blacks !!!!

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NB 20 mins ago

Oh there rest of the world made a lot of positive strides, arrogant to think otherwise ED. Don't you believe other nations develop? South Africa? Ireland? France? Come on!


Of those you mention, I recall the one who interested me most was Elliott Dixon. Whatever happened to him? He looked like he could be the next Kaino!


Dual playmakers were always a thing, you maybe didn't notice because guys like Nonu and the two Smiths were so multi-faceted. The ppl who replaced them could not multi-task as well, esp versus [legal] rush D!

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Otagoman II 33 mins ago

70% is pretty good if you are winning tournaments. The period of 86% dominance is an outlier as I can't see any side getting up there with the serious threat of many nations able to pull a big result out these days.


I would be thinking De Groot will be coming straight back in as loosehead against Ireland.


Did you catch the NZ XV Munster game NB? Not bad for a scratch side. The Irish commentators made my big hope Holland MOTM.

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NB 25 mins ago

Will be taking a peek at th Munster game today OM!


Would also agree EDG has to be the #1 loosehead. Ppl keep touting Tamaiti to me but he still has an awful lot to learn!

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Head high tackle 46 mins ago

Nick Im hearing SA clubs may well be voted out of Europe as the Premiership looks to join with the URC. What are you hearing on this?

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Ed the Duck 5 mins ago

Came up recently but the view was that current growth trajectory and existing tv contracts would stick with status quo. Apparently the welsh were talking with the Prem but they are in a very sticky position, financially and otherwise!


Then again, with private equity at the table, literally anything could happen!!


Personally I’d be very disappointed if SA & Italy were cast adrift.

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NB 36 mins ago

I don't know much about it but will take a look HHT - too preoccupied with France!


If that is true I'd be dead aganst it. I think the South Africans have provided huge filip to the European game and I doubt England would do the same. They would prob also insist on all 10 of their clubs being included which would make URC very unwieldy.

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Head high tackle 49 mins ago

Its interesting that many seem to judge the ABs on a once in a life time period of success. Their overall ( total of 648 Games all up ) win % is at 76% and thats probably a fair view of reality. Yes, Razor will probably end up short of that this year but I dont remember a year where many teams have played 7 games v top 5 opposition and particularly this tour where its V 5, V 1 in 6 days then V 4 a week later. As an older ABs fan Ive seen some pretty bad era's and some pretty good era's. I feel around 75% is not only possible but probable for Razor in the 4 year period he is signed for.

Next year as an example NZ play SA at home ( 2 tests ) and France at home ( 2 tests ) plus the usual suspects in the RC but the EOYT is unknown atm.

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NB 34 mins ago

I'd agree that 75% is a realistic aim given where the top teams are right now HH. At the same time I can esily see the rate falling as low as 65% and I'm not sure what that would do to the health of the game in the country?

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MQ 1 hr ago

Think we have to accept we have been on the slide for a while now.Still interesting to see the repeated media pieces about the myth of the ABs slipping-I would say slipped past tense.In part don’t we have to give credit for the improvement of other nations particularly Ireland?Isnt that good for the game?Are we beginning to feel the impact of losing the Boks from Super rugby and maybe soon TRC?I would agree we are also ran right now so will be interesting to see how we progress-assuming we do!Isnt that part of sport though to be in improvement mode?Back to the stats though I think the Boks were under 60% leading into 2019?Now with the focus on the RWC does it matter so much what you are doing between tournaments?You just get through your group(remembering the ABs qualified 2nd in 2023)and then you have 3 matches to win the thing.

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NB 27 mins ago

Slipping is relative isn't it? The halo is bound to slip from 85% +, but that became the norm for AB supporters over the best part of a decade.


I don't see becoming the norm again. The ABs prob will continue to improve but will they do it as quickly as other nations like France of SA? Big question!

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ColinK 1 hr ago

Whatever let's see if this load of waffle is still valid in 2 years time. ABs will rise we have a lot of new talent coming through. The NPC was the highest standard for years. The game is changing to suit the fast pace we like to play. We get to play the Springboks more, including the franchises, which will make us better! Overall I am optimistic. I will add having watched the England game multiple times we made most of the play. England are an awesome physical team, but you can expect the All Blacks to get better and better at executing the chances. It could easily have been 5 tries to one instead of 3 to 1.

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NB 29 mins ago

ABs will rise we have a lot of new talent coming through. The NPC was the highest standard for years. The game is changing to suit the fast pace we like to play.

Isn't that part of the real point though Colin? The ABs are no faster than anyone else now, which is why they were dead last in fourth quarter points in the RC at minus 43. It's also why England have been able to fight them down to the wire over three matches in 2024.


Be real. England is third or even fourth ranked team in the 6N behind Ireland, France and poss Scotland too. Borthwick is only coaching at just over 50% right now. The ultimate test it is not.

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