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LONG READ Hiring Rob Penney may be the Crusaders' first major mistake in 30 years

Hiring Rob Penney may be the Crusaders' first major mistake in 30 years
1 year ago

And just like that, the power balance within New Zealand rugby seemingly shifted from Christchurch to the North Island. For seven years the Crusaders were untouchable, the smartest and best run club in the country and then, overnight, they collapsed and were usurped by the Hurricanes and Blues.

That those two likely finalists have established themselves as the leading contenders in Super Rugby Pacific is not necessarily a huge surprise. Neither suffered much of a player drain and the talent within both squads has been apparent for some time.

New Hurricanes coach Clark Laidlaw had enjoyed a lengthy and successful tenure with the All Blacks Sevens team and the Blues’ new supremo Vern Cotter arrived at the back end of a long career in which he has won the Top 14 with Clermont and taken Scotland to a World Cup quarter-final. Each has made a strong and positive impression in their first campaigns.

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Vern Cotter has coached all over the world, most recently taking charge of the Fiji national team after long spells in France and Scotland (Photo Phil Walter/Getty Images)

Just as interestingly, the big improvement both sides have made is in their forward play and set-piece work and there is genuine grunt about everything they do. The Hurricanes have never been renowned as a team to grind it out in the trenches and yet this year, that has been their modus operandi – they have scrummed for penalties, attacked tight to the ruck and patiently earned the right to play wider.

It has been eerily similar at the Blues, where Hoskins Sotutu has been transformed into a bruising all-court No 8 with the rest of the pack not far behind in their desire to pick and drive and keep smashing away until teams break. The way both sides are playing, it’s easy to see them being just as effective in late May and early June when the weather turns wintry, and the competition tightens up.

This is particularly relevant in the case of the Blues, who looked like champions in 2022 when they cruised to the final with just one defeat – only to have their lineout destroyed by the Crusaders in the final. Then last year, the Blues were beaten up all over the park by the same opposition in the semi-final, falling to a 52-15 defeat in which their lack of physicality was stunning.

In many ways, those two humbling defeats have inspired the Blues this year, with Cotter building a plan to make sure such humiliation is not inflicted upon them again. Shipping over 50 points to the Crusaders this year would be more than embarrassing, since the defending champions have fallen off a cliff, managing to win just one of their first eight games. Their demise has become as much the story of Super Rugby as the rise of their New Zealand rivals.

The Crusaders have been poor all season, but in those two games in Australia they descended into a rabble – no shape, no idea what they were trying to do and no cohesive plan.

For much of the early part of the season media explained the Crusaders’ regression as an inevitable consequence of the post-World Cup player exodus, in which Sam Whitelock, Richie Mo’unga, Jack Goodhue and Leicester Fainga’anuku all left. Then there was a horrible run of injuries which ruled Scott Barrett, Will Jordan, Braydon Ennor, Tamaiti Williams, Fergus Burke and David Havilli out for long stretches.

But watching the Crusaders lose first to the Waratahs – when they led with two seconds remaining and just had to catch a kick-off and boot the ball out – and then get belted by the Force, it became impossible not to wonder whether there is a deeper problem.

The Crusaders have been poor all season, but in those two games in Australia they descended into a rabble – no shape, no idea what they were trying to do and no cohesive plan. There were multiple execution errors – dropped balls, poor passes and wild kicks – for which the players must take the blame, but the lack of strategic understanding looked more like a coaching problem, and it has to be asked whether the Crusaders got the right coach.

Having lost Scott Robertson to the All Blacks, they seemed to know almost immediately they were going to hire Rob Penney for the 2024 season. Penney is a former Canterbury player and coach, who also worked as an assistant with the Crusaders in 2005, and that may have been his chief qualification as the most successful club in Super Rugby history has never looked outside its own family for a coach.

Rob Penney has come under fire after the Crusaders’ bleak start to their Super Rugby Pacific title defence (Photo by Kai Schwoerer/Getty Images)

But Penney’s record in the last decade has not been overwhelming. He had a moderately successful two-year stint at Munster, but ultimately left because he met too much resistance in his efforts to change the way the team played, a similar spell at the Shining Arcs in Japan, before joining the Waratahs where he was sacked 18 months into a three-year contract.

Under his supervision the Tahs won five of 19 games and fell to a few record defeats in the process. Penney’s resume had red flags but the hierarchy ignored them, seemingly seeking a coach with a Crusaders connection at any price. It may be the first major misstep they have made in almost 30 years.

From commentators, I think it’s childish, frankly. When you see those things happen overseas, you don’t see improvements in results, that’s the fact.

The Crusaders, having gone eight years without conceding a try from a rolling maul, had three scored against them in two weeks. The power that defined them was lost in the first half of their campaign. The speed at which they used to transition from defence to attack was no longer there, and the certainty about where they were going to attack and how, was replaced with vague ideas of shuffling sideways or kicking aimlessly. The club lost its way and it will be fascinating to see if they can find a path back, especially as more of their frontline players are going to be returning from injury in the next few weeks.

Barrett and Havilli recovered for Friday’s vsit of the Rebels, and the Crusaders won 39-0. But was this a sign of a revival, or simply a romp against weak opposition in the sort of cold, wet conditions Australian teams have never liked encountering in New Zealand? Will the wins keep coming and structure return, or will critics be proven right with their arguments the club need coaching change to succeed?

Unsurprisingly, perhaps, chief executive Colin Mainsbridge made it clear in an interview on Newstalk ZB he’s sticking by Penney. He also, more intriguingly, had a dig at the media for daring to suggest Penney’s performance should be under intense scrutiny.

“I don’t mind it from fans, because they are emotionally invested in it,” he said.

“Naturally, you’re looking for performance, sometimes that means you can’t think logically or use evidence to arrive at any sort of clarity of decision.

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Rebels Super Rugby Pacific” width=”1024″ height=”576″ /> The Crusaders thrashed the Rebels on Friday, but criticisms of the team will endure (Photo by Joe Allison/Getty Images)

“But from commentators, I think it’s childish, frankly. When you see those things happen overseas, you don’t see improvements in results, that’s the fact.

“There’ll be an exception that proves the rule, but generally it makes no difference, and in fact probably, things get worse.

“There’s a real opportunity to be thoughtful and logical, and just make sure to get the best out of the group and give them all the support you can.

“Unless there’s toxicity or a complete breakdown in trust between players and coaching staff, and that’s not the case.”

In another six weeks it will become apparent whether the Crusaders were right to back their man.

Comments

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B.J. Spratt 333 days ago

Rob who?

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L 367 days ago

to be fair I didnt know who Rob Penny was until he started coaching the Crusaders. I then looked up his coaching results on Wikipedia. Good God there is no way in h.ll I would have hired a coach that was fired from the Warratahs after 18 months. That is a red flag all day long. Aside from that he has no real standout performances that would warrant him being made Head Coach of the Crusaders. I am not sure what the Crusaders board were thinking. We all make mistakes but ignoring the obvious seems strange.

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JT 369 days ago

No longer able to except the excuses offered up for Rob. The red jersey has lost it’s mana and

become a joke. I do not wish Mr Penny any wrong but it is time to go. Do the right thing Rob and retire, PLEASE.

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mike 388 days ago

Not a fan of Penney to be fair as I don’t see him able to perform at SR level. However he has stepped into a bit of a mess with so many long service players leaving. No matter how good a coach us he can’t wave a magic wind and turn young pups into Crusaders in 5 mins.

Wheaven to accept this is a complete rebuild of players and culture. Have some patience just as the other teams have had in years gone by

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Chiefs Mana 388 days ago

Crusaders will knock one of the top seeds out in the first round, hope it’s not my Chiefs

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swivel 388 days ago

Haha god NZ journalism is so crap listen to this guy “We’ll be proven in a few weeks if our baseless bs can stick” lol


Everywhere else uses experts to write stuff but here they’re just career guys that don’t care about what they write, NOT CONCEDED A TRY IN YEARS lol


“Naturally, you’re looking for performance, sometimes that means you can’t think logically or use evidence to arrive at any sort of clarity of decision.

Pretty much sums it up to a tee Paul ignores the articles in here about then runs off each team this year, that Penney is just a yearly stop gap until, who, Ellison is released by ABs, the huge imbalance of the injury front between teams at each end of the table, or who it was that should have been coach.


But of course if they actually do evidence and investigative work theyre shy of their article not hitting that sensationalism boundary and lose revenue. Leaving us non the wiser. They look like they would have been best with a geeup coach this year to turn around the razorless depression the clubs obviously going through. Hard to think of someone fitting the Bill to have been chosen instead, the clown Cheika? Id have been tempted to double play and entice O’Gara down. Hell maybe that is who they are waiting for, he wants a international gig and it could be after Scmidt or razor

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HOFer 388 days ago

Your comment was insanely difficult to understand.

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Nickers 389 days ago

I like to see the Crusaders lose as much as the next non-Crusaders fan, but the fact that most of their best players have not been available this year is being hand waved away like it shouldn’t effect them. It’s no coincidence that their first dominant performance came when they had more of their best players back. This is not rocket science.


If they can stay fit their team at the business end of the season will include Tamaiti Williams, Codie Taylor, Fletcher Newell, Scott Barrett, Quentin Strange, Ethan Blackadder and Cullen Grace in the forwards - most of whom have barely, or not played this year. That is an outstanding pack that have not played together this season. McLeod, Havili, Aumua, Reece, and Halfpenny will be a very different prospect behind their first choice pack as well.


Having said all that Penney’s record is scratchy at best, but given the players that have left and their injury list I’m reserving judgement. Penney’s appointment, a bit like Foz, has a similar stench of the incumbent having too much say in his replacement.


They are lacking a truly high quality and experienced 10 which will make it hard for them to go the whole way IMO, but the list of teams who would want to play them in the finals will be very short.

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swivel 388 days ago

Who is Penneys Razor that got left out overlooked for him, Ellison?


Not to mention the huge boost upgrading mcloed aumua and fihaki with Burke Ennor and Jordan will have for him

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Mitch 389 days ago

If a coach having Crusaders heritage is so sacrosanct, why did the Crusaders not pursue Vern Cotter as Scott Robertson’s replacement?

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swivel 388 days ago

What makes you think they didn’t? Or are you doing a media and just making.. assuming things

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DC 389 days ago

well remember the blues had a guy called jed rowlands for a season. remember scott took his coaching team with him give him time

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RW 389 days ago

Just like John Plumtree at the Sharks he has had a poor start to this season’s coaching gig, but now it looks like he is starting to pull them back also having won 1 game in the first Eleven games they played. It obviously helps that 11 of his fifteen are Springbok players. But now they are starting to improve. No ways they can make it to the playoffs this year but they probably used this season as a way to figure out their game plan.


One query I have and I think quite a few people have is: Are they playing better simply because of their international players are back or is it the team strategy led by Rob Penney that is starting to tick?

Well I guess we wait and see.


Also if it doesn't work out this season, it might be that Rob Penney is using this season as a way to organize himself for next season. Getting all his combinations sorted, his team strategies sorted and figuring out who is best is which position. Now I don't follow Super Rugby any more having now a full focus in the URC but I was surprised about the current Crusaders stats.

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swivel 388 days ago

One query I have and I think quite a few people have is: Are they playing better simply because of their international players are back or is it the team strategy led by Rob Penney that is starting to tick?

Well I guess we wait and see.

I see what you did there. You’d make a great journalist here

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Kevin 389 days ago

Write them off at your peril

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GP 389 days ago

Gregor Paul is going to be proved totally wrong. The Crusaders will get in the top 8 and are capable of winning this comp. The return of magnificent captain and player Scott Barrett on Friday was huge. There are a number of players returning and Ethan Blackadder showed huge progression in only his third game back. Christian Lio-Willie has added a new dimension , these two’s combination with Cullen Grace was fantastic. This builds depth when you have outstanding players like Tom Christie and Dom Gardiner also available. The tight five improved ten fold and this is with Tamaiti Williams and Codie Taylor being back.Others are set to return. Johnny McNicoll on his return home has been a revelation. Paul can dismiss Fridays win by the Crusaders as much as he likes and he will prove very popular in this country in doing so. But he will be proved wrong , Rob Penney and his coaching team will have the last laugh.

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NH 389 days ago

This cracked media record of aligning success or failure on head coaches is remarkable. Using the crusaders past history as an example, a more sensible observation and analysis could be that the recent head coaches had inherited a extremely successful combination of players linked to their traditional historical support of the Canterbury people. That period ended this year when the new coach was introduced to virtually a new team. And in a year where other franchises have grown much stronger than their respective past, it was always an anticipated reality that the coach and his new crusader team were up against it. Therefore, I humbly believe that unlike some commentators present, I laud coach Penny and the team for their efforts to date and I am sure given another term and with Canterbury behind them they will be riding high once more. Strange all this coming from me who lives in Taupo and a one eyed chiefs supporter. Can't wait for all future chiefs and crusader games!

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swivel 388 days ago

I think they still would have been up their if they’d had their first team present.


Obviously stil not going to be anywhere near as good as the last era but good enough to tumble

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JD Kiwi 389 days ago

To be fair, the teams he's had to put out are reminiscent of those available to Gatland during his horrible run at the Chiefs in late 2020.


Anyway, he's only got a two year contract and Wellingtonian Tamati Ellison will be ready by then, as will a lot of talented youngsters (like the Chiefs Gatland blooded). The Crusaders are planning for the long term.

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Chiefs Mana 388 days ago

Ellison is going into ABs coaching staff is he not? I understand he was in line for Saders top gig but was then selected by Razor after the fact (maybe skills coach or something).

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carlos 389 days ago

You wish. We shall see.

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OJohn 389 days ago

Poetic justice for trying to sell him to Australia as another kiwi saviour coach, not !

Deans was just as bad actually but McCaw and Carter covered up for him. That’s why they didn’t want him as All Black coach, even after Graeme Henry’s bumbling effort in 2007.

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swivel 388 days ago

Haha oh yes the Waratahs obviously just had a coaching problem huh🤣


How longs that going to continue!

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KM 389 days ago

More nonsense from little jonny

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YeowNotEven 389 days ago

Australia chooses its own coaches bro. And they’ve just hired John Schmidt who is about as opposite of Rob Penney as you could get.

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Ryan 389 days ago

SACK HIM !

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Dave 389 days ago

Visions of the coaches’ box on tv only tell part of the story, but RP seems disengaged and Tamati Ellison seems to be running the show.It has only been after a win that RP seems to become energised.He is yesterday’s man.The days of the grizzly Cantabrian reading the riot act to the boys are over.

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