Northern Edition

Select Edition

Northern Northern
Southern Southern
Global Global
New Zealand New Zealand
France France

LONG READ Why Joseph-Aukuso Sua'ali'i must not become Folau 2.0

Why Joseph-Aukuso Sua'ali'i must not become Folau 2.0
1 month ago

It is the sporting version of ‘cult of personality’ and it has cropped up in Australian rugby for far too long. Trust in the superstar athlete who can play league, union, and more often than not, Aussie rules too. Trust the demigod who can turn their hand to any sporting craft, and make a success of it with the bare minimum of time and effort invested.

In a recent interview with the Sydney Morning Herald, ex-Rugby Australia chairman Hamish McLennan – yes, he who engineered the Eddie Jones World Cup disaster – popped his over the media parapet to tout the latest edition of the Superman theory, which has RA ripping Penrith Panthers star number six Nathan Cleary away from the NRL. This, in the wake of 21-year-old league star Joseph-Aukuso Sua’ali’i heading to union.

“I’d be having a crack at the likes of Cleary,” McLennan said. “The game needs another five Josephs [Sua’ali’is], as the World Cup for 2027 is just around the corner and the clock is ticking.

Wallabies
Joseph-Aukuso Sua’ali’i has linked up with his new rugby union team-mates having changed codes (Photo by Mark Nolan/Getty Images)

“Thank God for Joseph, because that’s all everyone is talking about. Australia is number 10 [ranked] in the world and needs an injection of talent, or there will be nothing left to sell. He’s a global rugby superstar before he has even pulled on a Wallaby jumper, and he’ll be a wonderful role model for aspiring young players.”

Apart from the obvious question: ‘where will the money come from?’, McLennan conveniently forgot to mention Australia lost wing Mark Nawaqanitawase into the bargain. ‘Marky Mark’ was well on his way to becoming a world-class operator when he signed suddenly with NRL’s Sydney Roosters, so the whole deal became a tit-for-tat, a Faustian Pact.

There was also a dangerous disconnect between what the ex-chairman was saying, and the words uttered almost simultaneously by the new director of high performance Peter Horne at a workshop in Brisbane.

“[At age-group level] a lot of people are talking about, ‘is he a league kid, or is he a rugby kid?’

“We want to invest in those players that are committed to rugby and give them an opportunity. If we have got good-quality programmes that are connected to a potential career in a professional environment, then the ones that we want to keep, we do.

“Our value proposition is around quality of programme, [and] opportunity for international touring. We tour at under-18 level, we have got competition in Super Rugby U16s, 19s. The whole package.”

In Horne’s world, it is all about alignment. Aligning the new Australia XV programme with the Wallabies and linking both back to state by selecting 64 players to tour the UK in November; connecting state programmes to age-group development and the early sighting of talents who might commit to either code by providing substantial, attractive professional pathways in union.

For McLennan, it is all about poaching the best talent, wherever it has been developed, then building a marketing show around it. Never mind the quality of our programme, feel the width of the superstar’s reach. While one man patiently digs the foundations, another sells the product with a flourish. Now look at the two attitudes, side by side, and ask yourself how growth really happens.

The most famous recent example of the Superman theory has been Israel Folau. Folau was a supreme athlete who had played both league and AFL before moving to rugby, and he made a spectacular and immediate impact on the game against the 2013 British and Irish Lions.

During a seven-year stint with the Wallabies, Folau played in five different positions, but arguably never made any of them fully his own. He was always one of the very best attacking players on planet rugby, but there remained a trove of rugby’s positional secrets he failed to unlock. The requirements of defence, contact skills and the kicking game were a mystery right to the end.

The finish when it came was suitably random, with Folau using his sporting profile as a social media pulpit to spread controversial religious views. Rugby Australia found him guilty of breaching its code of conduct and on 17 May 2019 his four-year contract was terminated ahead of time. The superstar theory did not align with Australia’s rugby values on or off the field.

Yet, the Svengali-like pull of supernormal talent remains. Only a couple of months ago, Folau was asked by former New Zealand rugby league international Isaac John on the Ebbs and Flows podcast whether he felt he could ‘walk back into the Wallabies and make an impact’ at the age of 35.

“I think I could, that’s just my mindset,” the player said.

“If I got given the opportunity to go into that changing room and put on the gold jersey again tomorrow, I think I’d fit straight in.

“I’m not being arrogant or anything, it’s just the confidence and the mindset that I have about being there.

“I don’t like to look down on certain players, I know the challenge of what it’s like to play at an international level. I’m 35 now and been around for a bit of time, but the mindset and the hunger’s still there as when I was 17 and just coming into the NRL.”

Whatever happens off it, on the field the necessary sense of alignment will only be built by Joe Schmidt identifying Sua’ali’i’s best spot and then sticking with it, come hell or high water, at national and provincial level, until he knows every nook and cranny of the position.

The five three-quarters Schmidt would probably like to see working together as a unit for the 2025 Lions tour are Samu Kerevi and Len Ikitau in the centres, then perming three out of four from Andrew Kellaway, Tom Wright, Marika Koroibete and Sua’ali’i in the backfield. The easiest place for the new man to start would be on the wing, with the endgame of shifting to full-back after he learns the backfield rotations required in union.

Steve Borthwick’s England will have their own version of the same predicament in November. With Exeter’s number 13 Henry Slade only recently returned from injury, there will be a strong temptation for the head coach to move Northampton’s Tommy Freeman in from the wing to outside centre. At 6ft 2ins  and well over 100kg, Freeman has the size and physicality, and his club coach Phil Dowson was in no doubt about his ability to make the switch successfully after Friday night’s hammering of Sale.

“[Tommy] is obviously adept at all those positions – full-back, wing, 13 – and the more you get him on the ball the better. He got some space today and he showed what a capable player he is.

“Henry Slade is one of the best in the league and he is back fit, [but] I would be surprised if he was not in the mix somewhere, and where he fits and how he fits and how they get him in the game is interesting.”

The first half rapidly became ‘The Tommy Freeman Show’ on both sides of the ball. I have no doubt he will be in the Lions Test XV for the series against the Wallabies, and that he will be one of the [fully-aligned] star turns of the tour.

 

If you want to play the sophisticated attacking shapes behind the ball Saints like to use under Sam Vesty, you need the man ‘on point’ to present a physical threat in front of them, and that is what Freeman provided.

 

Freeman also demonstrated he has the soft hands necessary to connect the playmakers inside with the finishers outside.

 

It is not just the soft hands, it is the couple of subtle steps backwards to put passer tantalisingly out of reach of blitzer that counts. You cannot buy that kind of real-time footballing nous, and it’s what makes players such as Freeman a genuinely multi-positional option.

With wings tracking the ball inside so frequently in the modern game, the centre often switches spots to provide width when they are absent. With his experience in the back three, Freeman does it naturally.

 

As ex-Leinster and Ireland great Brian O’Driscoll pointed out in the TNT Sports commentary, the real test for a novice 13 is in defence, where he can be expected to make the lion’s share of important decisions in the outside half of the field. Freeman took to the role like a duck to water.

 

 

Recognising the trigger to either rush straight upfield, or drift sideways to link up with the outside backs is a fiendishly delicate matter, and it is the 13’s prime responsibility. In both cases Freeman gets it right, synchronising his movement to a passer fully committed to making the delivery. In the second instance he ‘spooks’ Tom Curry into the speculator, which drops straight into the bucket for Saints wing George Hendy.

Freeman also has a few tricks up his sleeve in contact, as this clip close to the Northampton goal-line illustrated.

 

Freeman could very well line up for the first game of the November tour against the All Blacks at centre rather than on the wing. If he does, it will be because of an alignment of understanding between his club Northampton and his country England. The coaches know he can handle the spot, it is just a question of whether he is a better option than Slade.

Australia by contrast is still dogged by the Superman theory, and supporters of the Wallabies can only hope Sua’ali’i is given the time to find out what his best position in the sister code really is. It will take time and patience, neither of which is in plentiful supply in Aussie.

The hope must be that he does not turn into Folau version 2.0, a supreme athlete who never fully learned his positional nuances. Schmidt can ill-afford the unwanted spin-offs of the cult of personality, any more unknowns or loose ends, or another superstar without any obvious cause.

Comments

64 Comments
C
Chris G. 33 days ago

Why does anyone take any notice of coaches (and chairmen) who have been both discredited and fired for incompetence? Of course they'll have an opinion/axe to grind, but generally they're trying to justify their own failures. Sure McLennan might have had a hand in Joseph S. moving to union, but that's also where he came from at TKS. McLennan was also responsible for the disaster that was Eddie Jones, in spite of both the ARU and the Poms having previously fired him.


Meanwhile, if it wasn't for a certain airline (also a major sponsor of the Wallabies) and its CEO, who also had an axe to grind because he didn't share the same religious views, and who has also subsequently been discredited, Folau would still be playing full back for Australia.


Imagine both of them in the back line together?

A
AllyOz 36 days ago

It’s probably a little worse than you state Nick. We lost both Mark Nawaqanitawase AND Carter Gordon, I suspect for a combined cost to the NRL clubs of about $1 million and we are paying about $1.6 million for Joey (though some of that is coming from private investors). I think he will be a great player, particularly if he is left in one spot to develop. I much prefer Peter Hornes approach of developing and retaining talent from a younger age and bringing them through rather than losing them and buying back three years later at twice the league market value.

M
Mitch 59 days ago

If anybody needs a cheap laugh, Suliasi Vunivalu was called a Wallabies 'gun' in a news corp article about him potentially joining a French rugby club or returning to the NRL.

N
NB 58 days ago

That is cheap Mitch - but I can easily see one of the French clubs picking him up....

d
dw 59 days ago

I'm not his biggest fan but genuinely interested in why it hasn't worked out for him? Ronnie, Jones etc all saw potential but he hasn't really fired, just glimpses of brilliannce

J
JW 59 days ago

So you actually think it's down to straight ability rather than Slades fitness? It would be strange for someone like that to not come back and be able to slot straight in again, what sort of injury did he have?


Everyone would be very happy if Joseph was Israel 2.0. Fair criticisms/objective views on Folau though, I very much have Marky Mark and him in the same player type and MM may return to prove he's got the same ability to influence a match as Izzy but he just never seemed to have the same potential as someone like Freeman or JAS for me.


Speaking of those matters, no referencing to Arundell being the missing link to take Freeman's spot, he's gone off the radar a bit? No idea what side he players but would that be a possible Lions makeup at some point on the tour!


Agree that JAS needs freedom to express himself wherever he is and that should be from center much like in this example, very similar players. You just have to worry about him lasting 80 with his shoulder charges thats all.

N
NB 58 days ago

There is quite a queue of good young English wings building up and that may eventually push Freeman inside. Not yet but eventually.


Marky Mark was not perfect esp on D but he was much better than Folau. And he was Aussie's best back on the 2022 tour.


Henry cannot play for England because he plays Top 14 JW.

M
Mzilikazi 59 days ago

Thanks Nick. I am reading in Singapore on a sunny, if very humid, morning. Outside the door is a lovely old rainforest tree, a White Olive, adorned with epiphytes. How different this place is from Dubai. Watching the sunset there the other night, the red fiery orb descended towards the horizon, getting dimmer all the time, before totally disappearing well short in the haze of dust and pollutants in the air.


Back in Australia tomorrow, and can then catch up on a lot of missed games on Stan, including the Northampton win.


"Folau was a supreme athlete who had played both league and AFL before moving to rugby". My comment there would be that he was very good as a league player, but pretty much failed at AFL.


I think you out it in a nutshell with " He was always one of the very best attacking players on planet rugby, but there remained a trove of rugby’s positional secrets he failed to unlock. The requirements of defence, contact skills and the kicking game were a mystery right to the end." I have not really watched much of Joseph S, but he is very different to Folau, in that he has a rugby background, being another Kurtley Beale. Both league players as kids, then playing and being super stars for two of the leading Syndey union schools, St Joseph's and Kings, Parramatta. Folau never had that union background.

N
NB 58 days ago

You do get about Miz! Never been to Singpapore.


The early noises coming out of camp about JAS are much positive than Folau. Sounds like he really is responding to contact coaching.


You could never win the ball from Izzy in the air, but you darn well knew you stood an even chance of counter-rucking him when he came back to earth! ABs did it for years and he never improved.

d
dw 59 days ago

Agreed. If I read correctly he also played junior rugby for a local Penrith club as a kid. If that's correct he's had a long connection to the game which is great. And like you said Folau, as far as I know didn't play as a kid.

J
JW 59 days ago

Why Miz must not become Carlos 2.0


😜

d
dw 59 days ago

Glad you pointed out the absurdity of the Mclennan comments. After ruining 2023 for us all he still is at it.


Totally agree re giving Joseph time to find his position and relearn the game he played as a kid. Are you confident both Joe Schmidt and Dan Mackellar will.manage this well? The media here will likely just be reporting on Joseph's every move and ignoring the other players

N
NB 58 days ago

Yes I think they are the right kind of ppl and coaches to have around JAS... They will insist he does the ugly stuff well, the more spectacular stuff will prob take care of itself...

D
Derek Murray 59 days ago

Lots of comments on this one:


1/ Australia is not dogged by the Superman theory. We booted the idiot proposing 5 more RL players to the kerb for just that sort of grandstanding. And brought into the local game guys like Horne and Schmidt

2/ BOD's comments about Freeman at 13 were off the back of two tackles Freeman missed badly during the game. It was gentle criticism of a shortfalling rather than praise of a talent

3/ How was Jon Ramm's match? On for a 10 minuted HIA replacement and had a hand in 3 tries then scored a 70m one for himself in the second half when he came on proper

4/ How does Borthwick leave out Tom Pearson? Really? The Saints backrow gave the superstar Sale mob a serious touch up with an Oz who didn't regularly start at the Reds, a 19yo (who could be special), and Pearson

5/ How good is Furbank? Eddie has his faults but he spotted his talent very early. Credit too, to Borthwick for picking him ahead of Steward - seems so obvious now but it wasn't when he did it.

N
NB 58 days ago

1. I'm glad you did DM!

2. I think BOD knows Tommy F is a good un at 13.

3. James Ramm was excellent when he came on, in fact I almost added him to my Australia XV last week...

4. Just loads of good 7's in England right now.

5.Yes you have to credit SB for picking Furbank over Steward, must have caused him some heartache to do it.

M
Mitch 60 days ago

Brett and Harry spoke about Joseph-Aukuso Sua’ali’i on their recent pod with Brett revealing that Joseph still has his rugby instincts particularly around ball placement once he's been tackled. Sua’ali’i did some goal kicking for the Sydney Rooosters and was competent in that skill. He'll be able to kick in general play too which Folau couldn't.

N
NB 60 days ago

That will help enormously if it is true Mitch. The most basic of all needs after a move from League is learning the contact skills with the ball still 'live' at the tackle in Rugby. With England we always felt Folau was vulnerable in that area.

O
Otagoman II 60 days ago

Based on no games played I've got a good feeling about Su'ali'i. Level headed and clear about his goals. Captain in 5 years? Maybe a bit crazy.

N
NB 60 days ago

He does seem grounded doesn't he OM?

O
OJohn 60 days ago

The bits about Folau, the only bits I read, are well written. Good to have some intelligent commonsense commentary, instead of the usual dead boring agenda pushing. Well done.

N
NB 60 days ago

Because I wrote it! I don't know what happened with the placement of the piece and authorship! Help.

A
Ardy 60 days ago

Sua’ali’i will go well I suspect Nick. He should have been a natural Wallaby but with our cult of superstars it took him to NRL. The other problem we have is the fixed idea that a player at 21 is too young to play for the Wallabies, which I think is strange when we need all the talent we can use.

The EOSTour will be very interesting to see if Sua’ali’i gets on the field for the Wallabies. Still, I'm sure Joe will make a decision not on Sua’ali’i's superstardom but on what he can show in Aus A etc. Then can he fit into the team.

N
NB 60 days ago

Thanks for realizing it's me Ardy😁


The intriguing aspect as you say is how far JAS can go, and how quickly he can progress.


Wing should not be too big a call almost immediately. FB will take longer.

Load More Comments

Join free and tell us what you really think!

Sign up for free
Search