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'Two alpha males': Dane Gagai opens up on why he threw fists at Burton

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Dane Gagai and Matt Burton have stoked a State of Origin fire that now burns with rare parity after Queensland’s victory spoiled any hopes of a NSW dynasty with a backs-to-the-wall series win.

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Centre Gagai went toe-to-toe with Burton in a crazy Origin III in Brisbane on Wednesday, the pair sin-binned before the Maroons went from 12-10 down to win 22-12.

It was their ninth win from the last 10 Origin deciders and meant the series has been split 3-3 in the last six years and 2-2 since new coach Billy Slater last played in 2018.

“It’s Origin – just stepping up for your mates,” Gagai told AAP of his thought process behind the fight that landed both fines, but no NRL suspensions.

“Two alpha males just not wanting to back down, and it was on.

“My old man always taught me what happens on the field stays on the field and I’ve met him outside of footy a few times.

“He seems like a good man, so no hard feelings; he was just standing up for himself, I was standing up for my mate.”

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After Queensland won 11 of 12 series, the Blues hopes of creating their own dynasty were bright after new Maroons coach Slater and his assistants Cameron Smith and Johnathan Thurston joined Cooper Cronk and Greg Inglis in retirement.

But Queensland have played to the classic underdog Origin script, concocting unlikely series wins in 2020 and again this year despite the game three loss of star man Cameron Munster.

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It sets up a juicy next chapter for both sides, given the fresh talent introduced in 2022 and the old heads like Gagai who still hope to play their part.

“For the next couple of years we’re going to be in for some good Origins,” Gagai said.

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“I took it personally after we lost all of our key players like Billy, Greg Inglis, Thurston, all those big names, people thinking it was almost like NSW’s turn to dominate.

“So to get the win was so special.”

Ben Hunt, who scored a 70-metre intercept try to seal the contest, said there was respect between the sides despite the animosity on Wednesday.

“I wouldn’t call it anger,” he said.

“It’s passion and wanting to win. There’s a lot of aggressive boys going hard at each other.

“Origin is alive and well; the last five years (the winner has been) chopping and changing. It’s amazing, good for our game.

“I wouldn’t say (NSW) ‘don’t get it’ (Origin) … we were just going to give it everything.

“They’re (NSW) in a great spot and we’ve got a great side so they will be some good footy in years to come.”

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JW 1 hour ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

In another recent article I tried to argue for a few key concept changes for EPCR which I think could light the game up in the North.


First, I can't remember who pointed out the obvious elephant in the room (a SA'n poster?), it's a terrible time to play rugby in the NH, and especially your pinnacle tournament. It's been terrible watching with seemingly all the games I wanted to watch being in the dark, hardly able to see what was going on. The Aviva was the only stadium I saw that had lights that could handle the miserable rain. If the global appeal is there, they could do a lot better having day games.


They other primary idea I thuoght would benefit EPCR most, was more content. The Prem could do with it and the Top14 could do with something more important than their own league, so they aren't under so much pressure to sell games. The quality over quantity approach.


Trim it down to two 16 team EPCR competitions, and introduce a third for playing amongst the T2 sides, or the bottom clubs in each league should simply be working on being better during the EPCR.


Champions Cup is made up of league best 15 teams, + 1, the Challenge Cup winner. Without a reason not to, I'd distribute it evenly based on each leauge, dividing into thirds and rounded up, 6 URC 5 Top14 4 English. Each winner (all four) is #1 rank and I'd have a seeding round or two for the other 12 to determine their own brackets for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. I'd then hold a 6 game pool, home and away, with consecutive of each for those games that involve SA'n teams. Preferrably I'd have a regional thing were all SA'n teams were in the same pool but that's a bit complex for this simple idea.


That pool round further finalises the seeding for knockout round of 16. So #1 pool has essentially duked it out for finals seeding already (better venue planning), and to see who they go up against 16, 15,etc etc. Actually I think I might prefer a single pool round for seeding, and introduce the home and away for Ro16, quarters, and semis (stuffs up venue hire). General idea to produce the most competitive matches possible until the random knockout phase, and fix the random lottery of which two teams get ranked higher after pool play, and also keep the system identical for the Challenge Cup so everthing is succinct. Top T2 side promoted from last year to make 16 in Challenge Cup

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JW 7 hours ago
Does South Africa have a future in European competition?

I had a look at the wiki article again, it's all terribly old data (not that I'd see reason for much change in the case of SA).

Number Of Clubs:

1526

Registered+Unregistered Players:

651146

Number of Referees:

3460

Pre-teen Male Players:

320842

Pre-teen Female Player:

4522

Teen Male Player:

199213

Teen Female Player:

4906

Senior Male Player:

113174

Senior Female Player:

8489

Total Male Player:

633229

Total Female Player:

17917


So looking for something new as were more concerned with adults specifically, so I had a look at their EOY Financial Review.

The total number of clubs remains consistent, with a marginal increase of 1% from 1,161 to 1,167. 8.1.

A comparative analysis of verified data for 2022 and 2023 highlights a marginal decline of 1% in the number of female players, declining from 6,801 to 6,723. Additionally, the total number of players demonstrates an 8% decrease, dropping from 96,172 to 88,828.

So 80k+ adult males (down from 113k), but I'm not really sure when youth are involved with SAn clubs, or if that data is for some reason not being referenced/included. 300k male students however (200k in old wiki data).


https://resources.world.rugby/worldrugby/document/2020/07/28/212ed9cf-cd61-4fa3-b9d4-9f0d5fb61116/P56-57-Participation-Map_v3.pdf has France at 250k registered but https://presse-europe1-fr.translate.goog/exclu-europe-1-le-top-10-des-sports-les-plus-pratiques-en-france-en-2022/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp has them back up at 300k registered.


The French number likely Students + Club, but everyone collects data different I reckon. In that WR pdf for instance a lot of the major nations have a heavily registered setup, were as a nation like England can penetrate into a lot more schools to run camps and include them in the reach of rugby. For instance the SARU release says only 29% of schools are reached by proper rugby programs, where as the 2million English number would be through a much much higer penetration I'd imagine. Which is thanks to schools having the ability to involve themselves in programs more than anything.


In any case, I don't think you need to be concerned with the numbers, whether they are 300 or 88k, there is obviously a big enough following for their pro scenes already to have enough quality players for a 10/12 team competition. They appear ibgger than France but I don't really by the lower English numbers going around.

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